Posts by Disassociated Lady 2

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Help with fading, please...

by longgone in

i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.

i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.

i'm another born in, third generation.

I think the elders are now wise to people getting reinstated to have family contact and then fading after a while. They don't let you fade anymore, you will be harassed until they find some dirt on you to disfellowhip you. I have experienced this and also know of it happening to others :-( x

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Hilarious Radio Standup By An Ex-Witness

by pale.emperor in

guys, you gotta check this out.

she explains the whole religion in a very funny way.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07x6mf3#play.

Disassociated Lady 2

That is very good! :-D xxx

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Crisis of Conscience Raymond Franz

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

this book has been recommended to me a few times.

is it worth reading?.

how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?

Disassociated Lady 2

Thank you for all your comments and thank you to the lovely member who sent me a PDF copy...I am looking forward to reading it :-) xxx

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Final Rejection

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

i have just returned from visiting friends and family.

when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.

i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.

Disassociated Lady 2

In answer to Village Idiot - no, my son has never been a JW. When I raised my son and daughter I did not teach them any religion, I suggested they learn about all beliefs themselves and make up their own minds. I learnt that being taught a religion can be like forcing a child to eat vegetables....they could hate them for the rest of their lives! I had already explained to him what JWs can be like but now he has seen it for himself. x

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Crisis of Conscience Raymond Franz

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

this book has been recommended to me a few times.

is it worth reading?.

how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?

Disassociated Lady 2

This book has been recommended to me a few times.

Is it worth reading?

How could I get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on Amazon and Ebay?

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Final Rejection

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

i have just returned from visiting friends and family.

when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.

i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.

Disassociated Lady 2

My Mum dislikes me anyway as she sees the "free and wild spirit" in me that was in her before she gave in fully to the JWs. She doesn't want to be reminded of it, so it is easy for her to have an excuse not to see me. Very sad. x

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Final Rejection

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

i have just returned from visiting friends and family.

when i was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my dad was diagnosed with cancer.

i was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced i had not changed my life enough to be a jw again.

Disassociated Lady 2

I have just returned from visiting friends and family. When I was disassociated my parents had contact with me a few months before my Dad was diagnosed with cancer. I was reinstated 20 months after his funeral and then they disfellowshipped me 5 months later as they are convinced I had not changed my life enough to be a JW again.

As my mother had been seeing me before my reinstatement I went to visit her with my adult son. She opened the door and said she could not entertain us as my sister (who has been an inactive JW for years) would soon be visiting. My mother looked at me and said "You know the rules". I replied that is was cruel. She said it was not cruel. I refused to become the "little girl" again in front of her so I told her some home truths. I also mentioned that it says in the Watchtowers "You should honour your family commitments but keep contact to a minimum" I live over 300 miles away from her so I only visit once or twice a year. The fact that the JWs allow minimum contact and she doesn't even want to give me that says more about her than it does about the JWs and I told her so...this is HER choice not theirs!!!!

I was also very angry that my 24 year old son was with me and she refused to invite him in either as I offered to go elsewhere. Anyway after saying my piece she slammed the door on me and we left.

The next time I will see her now is probably in her box!!

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Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?

by HereIgo in

i have never understood this.

was it because of legal reasons?

i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.

Disassociated Lady 2

So that there are no witnesses to hear how nasty and abusive they are to single women who have to sit in front of them. (I know this to be true) x

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what are your thoughts on this quote from the elders book?

by aboveusonlysky in

'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.

shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.

that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.

Disassociated Lady 2

I was disfellowshipped a month ago because I live in the home of a retired "witch". She is no longer involved in this work and neither am I now, but they refused to believe that. I told them I cannot afford to move out and have no other options, but they believe that because I live there I must be engaging in all kinds of demonic practices. I knew there was no point in appealing as it would go against you anyway to say the elders are wrong. Ho hum! :-/ x

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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?

by pale.emperor in

when you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.

for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.

i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.

Disassociated Lady 2

In my teens on the way to the meeting we would pass a bar. I noticed the flashing disco lights and loud music. It looked exciting to me even though my mother said it was an evil place. I was disfellowhipped at 16 because I asked to be. At 17 I married to get away from home and then I was clubbing every Friday and Saturday night for years! Got drunk, tried a few substances like kids do, celebrated Christmas and all the holidays, had birthdays too it was wonderful :-) x